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Thread for Top 12 Sink or Swim 
DeletedUser11833
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Still way too early to do any, Ill make one a week out of BP
DeletedUser12539
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I just made the thread for it......and personally I like to see people do them sometimes before BP ends, its interesting to see who was spot on and who was dead wrong and there praise or lack there of for an alliance.
DeletedUser12122
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You beat me to it, I was about to start one
DeletedUser7318
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Rank 1: We Came To Party
EDIT: Now that I've left, I'll analyze this alliance.
-Relatively decent starting position, with several islands under strong control-- there are a few stragglers, which is to be expected in a 100 person alliance cap server, but for the most part they will have an easy time building up a core on the 45/55 border. There are quite a few solid ranked members, though a bit unsurprising given they have the top member count on the server pre-BP at the time of making this top 9(Eviction notice overtook them in that regard in the last few hours).
With Eviction Notice being pretty far north of them, they probably don't have much to worry about unless The Wicked Few and LIGHTNING DEATH team up against them. Float for first few weeks, then swim
Rank 2: Eviction Notice
-While still in the early part of BP, there are several very rapidly growing players(making them the highest average points per member alliance, for what it's worth), assumably gold spenders because otherwise these point totals would be impossible. Active gold spenders + some recognizable names(both good and bad, some VERY bad) equals this alliance has potential. They also have a pretty solid potential for a good core, but overall I'm going to label it Swim then sink due to good players abandoning ship
Rank 3: LIGHTNING DEATH
-They have a lot of members, and are extremely close to We Came To Party on the map-- their main cores are just a few islands away from each other. They do seem really spread out in 45, as well as extending into 55s border. While it's possible to overcome this, I'm going to say float then sink
Rank 4: Alpha and Omega
-These guys are spread out in 44, with a few crossing into the 54 border next to Eviction notice. They also don't seem to have very many super active or great players(though a few are recognizable and respectable). If these groups fight, Eviction notice will very likely win, due to better top players as well as a better core. Sink
Rank 5: Fluff and Stuff
- Other than a few stragglers, these guys seems to have a pretty solid core in north-east 54, with heavy potential for solidifying that. They have several very impressive names/players, though they don't seem to be taking this server seriously, as their best player TheGrepKraken seems to be just inactive. If some of their impressive players(There are quite a lot of them, actually) start trying on this server, they'll definitely be a force to be reckoned with, and you'd be very likely to see a lot of players from this alliance and Eviction Notice merge into a better ocean 54 alliance by cutting the weak/inactive players. If this happens, this group + Eviction Notice could have a very threatening presence on the server. Float early, swim if they last a month or two
Rank 6: The Wicked Few
Edit: This alliance has changed quite a bit through a merger, and is now my alliance, thus I rescind judgment.
Rank 7: MOUNTAIN WARRIORS
-A recognizable alliance name, with some good players in it, however I doubt they're making a move in this server. They don't seem to be trying to grow very steadily, probably just making a showing while they play their other servers. However, they have a very tight core, even though some members are spread out in 55-- if they do take the server seriously, there is potential for them to be an annoyance, but probably not much more than that. Float then sink
Rank 8: ARMY OF DEAD
Small, inactive, spread out, no real question that this alliance WILL SINK
Rank 9: The Art of War
Very spread out as well in 44. They don't really have a lot of direct threats, but I don't see them doing very well even so. Float until further notice, sink if they don't fortify before any good alliance looks at 44
There aren't any other alliances even worth mentioning(the last 2 shouldn't have even made the cut tbh), so I'm just gonna cut it off here. These predictions likely don't mean anything, because they're made with very little information pre-BP, but might as well get the ball rolling.
EDIT: Now that I've left, I'll analyze this alliance.
-Relatively decent starting position, with several islands under strong control-- there are a few stragglers, which is to be expected in a 100 person alliance cap server, but for the most part they will have an easy time building up a core on the 45/55 border. There are quite a few solid ranked members, though a bit unsurprising given they have the top member count on the server pre-BP at the time of making this top 9(Eviction notice overtook them in that regard in the last few hours).
With Eviction Notice being pretty far north of them, they probably don't have much to worry about unless The Wicked Few and LIGHTNING DEATH team up against them. Float for first few weeks, then swim
Rank 2: Eviction Notice
-While still in the early part of BP, there are several very rapidly growing players(making them the highest average points per member alliance, for what it's worth), assumably gold spenders because otherwise these point totals would be impossible. Active gold spenders + some recognizable names(both good and bad, some VERY bad) equals this alliance has potential. They also have a pretty solid potential for a good core, but overall I'm going to label it Swim then sink due to good players abandoning ship
Rank 3: LIGHTNING DEATH
-They have a lot of members, and are extremely close to We Came To Party on the map-- their main cores are just a few islands away from each other. They do seem really spread out in 45, as well as extending into 55s border. While it's possible to overcome this, I'm going to say float then sink
Rank 4: Alpha and Omega
-These guys are spread out in 44, with a few crossing into the 54 border next to Eviction notice. They also don't seem to have very many super active or great players(though a few are recognizable and respectable). If these groups fight, Eviction notice will very likely win, due to better top players as well as a better core. Sink
Rank 5: Fluff and Stuff
- Other than a few stragglers, these guys seems to have a pretty solid core in north-east 54, with heavy potential for solidifying that. They have several very impressive names/players, though they don't seem to be taking this server seriously, as their best player TheGrepKraken seems to be just inactive. If some of their impressive players(There are quite a lot of them, actually) start trying on this server, they'll definitely be a force to be reckoned with, and you'd be very likely to see a lot of players from this alliance and Eviction Notice merge into a better ocean 54 alliance by cutting the weak/inactive players. If this happens, this group + Eviction Notice could have a very threatening presence on the server. Float early, swim if they last a month or two
Rank 6: The Wicked Few
Edit: This alliance has changed quite a bit through a merger, and is now my alliance, thus I rescind judgment.
Rank 7: MOUNTAIN WARRIORS
-A recognizable alliance name, with some good players in it, however I doubt they're making a move in this server. They don't seem to be trying to grow very steadily, probably just making a showing while they play their other servers. However, they have a very tight core, even though some members are spread out in 55-- if they do take the server seriously, there is potential for them to be an annoyance, but probably not much more than that. Float then sink
Rank 8: ARMY OF DEAD
Small, inactive, spread out, no real question that this alliance WILL SINK
Rank 9: The Art of War
Very spread out as well in 44. They don't really have a lot of direct threats, but I don't see them doing very well even so. Float until further notice, sink if they don't fortify before any good alliance looks at 44
There aren't any other alliances even worth mentioning(the last 2 shouldn't have even made the cut tbh), so I'm just gonna cut it off here. These predictions likely don't mean anything, because they're made with very little information pre-BP, but might as well get the ball rolling.
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DeletedUser11197
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we gonna have a good time
DeletedUser12539
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hmmm list is kind of crap just saying lol your reasoning for alliance failing are there to spread out? Well at this point in the game (pre BP) most alliance are spread out (unless there premades suchs as WCTP, MW etc...) Secondly you claim MW has a and I quote "have a very tight core" so having 1 1/2 island is a tight core? Cool good to know! You claim don't recognize none of the the players in TWF or there half way decent get real buddy! Who are you again?
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DeletedUser7318
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*Shrug* I apologize if I trampled on some toes by saying your alliance will sink, I don't claim to be an expert. Maybe if you don't want people giving their opinions, you shouldn't make a pre-BP sink or swim thread. My reasoning is based on playing every single early game since and including Gela, along with a few past servers such as Delos and Upsilon.
And yes, if a small alliance is extremely compressed inside 2 islands, they will have a better time than a small alliance that is spread out. If you don't understand that, learn the basics.
Also, before talking trash to others, try actually going by the same name that you play as.
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DeletedUser14836
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Art of War leadership left them. Already sink.
DeletedUser7318
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That was fast lol
DeletedUser11440
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One might say they got scared.
Bloodtyrant
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That is what I was thinking. LOL
DeletedUser836
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I'm seeing a lot of familiar names for this world. It should be interesting.
DeletedUser12711
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Rank 1: Eviction Notice - N/A
I'm a member and have no comment.
Rank 2: We Came To Party - Swim
Probably the strongest group in the world, the only way I see them sinking is due to IA of too many players being apart of other worlds or losing interest. Or getting teamed up on from LD and Wicked Few. (I think the first is more likely)
Rank 3: LIGHTNING DEATH - Float
They are all over 45 and 55, which isnt a bad thing. I think if they can take on The Wicked Few or some other small alliances they may be able to stand up to WCTP.
Rank 4: Fluff and Stuff - Swim (LOVE THE NAME <3)
They are mainly in northern 54 with some caught in between Eviction Notice, I think this is another solid group of players and lets see if they make a splunk or a splash.
Rank 5: Alpha and Omega - Sink
They are in 44 mainly and are around MRA Killers, which is a bad thing. Let's see if they can hold their ground to MRA Killers or just become dead meat.
Rank 6: The Wicked Few - Swim
They are a similar boat with LD but their stats surprise me, with a good AVG and alliance ABP, I think this group can hold their own, I think the key here will be if they can pick off players and cities to hold up to WCTP or LD.
Rank 7: THE ARMY OF DEAD - Swim
They are based out of north 55 and don't really have any competition, maybe Mountain warriors?? Overall I think they have good positioning and a decent core, but they do have a poor alliance ABP.
Rank 8: MRA Killers - Swim
Currently in 44 and they are probably going to tear through Alpha and Omega, they have a superb average and some shout outs, they also have good alliance ABP, lets see how they do.
EDIT: This is my first Top 12/8 for any world, just felt like sharing my thoughts. I hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings or more importantly boost anyone's confidence too much
I'm a member and have no comment.
Rank 2: We Came To Party - Swim
Probably the strongest group in the world, the only way I see them sinking is due to IA of too many players being apart of other worlds or losing interest. Or getting teamed up on from LD and Wicked Few. (I think the first is more likely
)Rank 3: LIGHTNING DEATH - Float
They are all over 45 and 55, which isnt a bad thing. I think if they can take on The Wicked Few or some other small alliances they may be able to stand up to WCTP.
Rank 4: Fluff and Stuff - Swim (LOVE THE NAME <3)
They are mainly in northern 54 with some caught in between Eviction Notice, I think this is another solid group of players and lets see if they make a splunk or a splash.
Rank 5: Alpha and Omega - Sink
They are in 44 mainly and are around MRA Killers, which is a bad thing. Let's see if they can hold their ground to MRA Killers or just become dead meat.
Rank 6: The Wicked Few - Swim
They are a similar boat with LD but their stats surprise me, with a good AVG and alliance ABP, I think this group can hold their own, I think the key here will be if they can pick off players and cities to hold up to WCTP or LD.
Rank 7: THE ARMY OF DEAD - Swim
They are based out of north 55 and don't really have any competition, maybe Mountain warriors?? Overall I think they have good positioning and a decent core, but they do have a poor alliance ABP.
Rank 8: MRA Killers - Swim
Currently in 44 and they are probably going to tear through Alpha and Omega, they have a superb average and some shout outs, they also have good alliance ABP, lets see how they do.
EDIT: This is my first Top 12/8 for any world, just felt like sharing my thoughts. I hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings or more importantly boost anyone's confidence too much
DeletedUser9662
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Pretty solid Top 8 for your first one, nice job .
.DeletedUser12137
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It is always a nice thing to see a new top 8, top 10. Thanks for doing it.
DeletedUser12711
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Al the Conqueror
Lochagos
Greetings From Memento Mori guys, We will be in the Top 12 soon enough. I know a bunch of players in this world from previous,
Happy Hunting......
Happy Hunting......
DeletedUser
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have fun here? Maybe searching a new sense of my life, and its a GS one, so you know, I will have the time to speak about the sense of my place in this world