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I am going to provide copy/pastes of how things went down in this world, so once and for all everyone can know what happened here. Character of people was established.
The decision to merge KB with HH to fight against Varden went down like this:
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Pirate Rich 2013-11-25 16:41
First off MK11 is a noob artist, dont ever believe him. Varden wants to go for us now so the best thing we can do is get this merge/pact with HH and vigil going asap. I have a nice trusted spy in varden now so we have a level playing field, its not josef either.
This is what was sent to me yesterday... varden thinks were idiots.
Dementio 2013-11-21 17:27
if we do go to war with KB, we need to find an empty island in their territory
Dr. Delirium 2013-11-21 17:48
lol. The maximum territory of isolated KB is only like one ocean thick. I suspect it will be thinner if they go to war with us cause some of their players will jump ship. If this happens, I will say now that I dont think we should ever accept Pirate Rich, WrongKnight, or foolskillnu into the alliance.
Dementio 2013-11-21 17:54
agreed.
topflite 2013-11-21 19:00
Those three are dead to me and us.
Dr. Delirium 2013-11-21 19:32
so are we doing Dementio as good cop, topflite as bad cop?
Not sure what we are supposed to say in this new thread. Is it a therapeutic thing like "I feel betrayed when you make deals with our enemies behind our back" ?
Husker Red 2013-11-21 19:50
I say let them join and then 10 mins. after the last joins I will boot all three.
Uckfa ouya 2013-11-21 21:44
I like Husker Red's thinking
Dementio 2013-11-21 21:49
NO FAIR!!! I wanna kick one((
MK11 2013-11-22 00:55
That a good idea get the three noobs in and we take the group and kick the 3 out- I know for a fact that all KB will say thank you the Dictator and Traitors are gone. Those 3 threaten them and make them scared to even talk in their forum.
(end of pasted material by Pirate Rich)
We then all took a vote and every leader voted in favor of doing a fair and equal merge with HH, 50/50.
Varden would never give a fair merge, per their leader's statement here:
topoflite: "We are not merging with you and If we wanted we could crush you. No one from Varden or KB has ever attacked each other since the pact and I aim to keep it that way.
We are more than double your size. You can take your 50.50 merger idea and flush it down the toilet. Where in the he** did you ever get that idea."
So obviously, in the interest of trying to do something fair, all leaders voted on the merge with HH.
We did it. We made the merge happen. And for some reason, all of the Varden people blamed me. Me? Yup, everyone acted like I was the big boss that made everything happen, when in fact I was never anything more than an expert adviser and always downplayed my role in leadership. So the hate mail came at me nonstop. Even after months, I get new messages from people that need to seek mental help obviously. They are blocked now, thank goodness.
Anyway, we merged with HH as Hells Hornets. However, it wasn't good enough for Pirate Rich. He no longer had full ownership of an alliance. He didn't want to share the spotlight with anyone. So, in a selfish act akin to a child taking their ball and going home, he disbanded HH. Rather than simply leaving HH and restarting the Killer Beez in a more honorable fashion.
So he restarted the Killer Beez, and a lot of folks left the new HH and rejoined him, out of blind and misplaced loyalty.
Well now the time has come, and he's been given a seat in the house of Varden, so he left his KB behind and joined Varden. (Meanwhile, in US25, he disbanded the alliance there today, too.)
Deathakos has left, and Hells Hornets is no more. But there are other alliances out there, new alliances, new people shifting gears and moving around and colluding and conspiring to wage the war and keep it going. Thought I'm sure our kids will be in college by the time World Wonders get going in such a slow world...
From beginning to end, this is the story of the Hells Hornets and the merge that should have been, but was never given the fair chance to succeed.
The decision to merge KB with HH to fight against Varden went down like this:
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Pirate Rich 2013-11-25 16:41
First off MK11 is a noob artist, dont ever believe him. Varden wants to go for us now so the best thing we can do is get this merge/pact with HH and vigil going asap. I have a nice trusted spy in varden now so we have a level playing field, its not josef either.
This is what was sent to me yesterday... varden thinks were idiots.
Dementio 2013-11-21 17:27
if we do go to war with KB, we need to find an empty island in their territory
Dr. Delirium 2013-11-21 17:48
lol. The maximum territory of isolated KB is only like one ocean thick. I suspect it will be thinner if they go to war with us cause some of their players will jump ship. If this happens, I will say now that I dont think we should ever accept Pirate Rich, WrongKnight, or foolskillnu into the alliance.
Dementio 2013-11-21 17:54
agreed.
topflite 2013-11-21 19:00
Those three are dead to me and us.
Dr. Delirium 2013-11-21 19:32
so are we doing Dementio as good cop, topflite as bad cop?
Not sure what we are supposed to say in this new thread. Is it a therapeutic thing like "I feel betrayed when you make deals with our enemies behind our back" ?
Husker Red 2013-11-21 19:50
I say let them join and then 10 mins. after the last joins I will boot all three.
Uckfa ouya 2013-11-21 21:44
I like Husker Red's thinking
Dementio 2013-11-21 21:49
NO FAIR!!! I wanna kick one
((MK11 2013-11-22 00:55
That a good idea get the three noobs in and we take the group and kick the 3 out- I know for a fact that all KB will say thank you the Dictator and Traitors are gone. Those 3 threaten them and make them scared to even talk in their forum.
(end of pasted material by Pirate Rich)
We then all took a vote and every leader voted in favor of doing a fair and equal merge with HH, 50/50.
Varden would never give a fair merge, per their leader's statement here:
topoflite: "We are not merging with you and If we wanted we could crush you. No one from Varden or KB has ever attacked each other since the pact and I aim to keep it that way.
We are more than double your size. You can take your 50.50 merger idea and flush it down the toilet. Where in the he** did you ever get that idea."
So obviously, in the interest of trying to do something fair, all leaders voted on the merge with HH.
We did it. We made the merge happen. And for some reason, all of the Varden people blamed me. Me? Yup, everyone acted like I was the big boss that made everything happen, when in fact I was never anything more than an expert adviser and always downplayed my role in leadership. So the hate mail came at me nonstop. Even after months, I get new messages from people that need to seek mental help obviously. They are blocked now, thank goodness.
Anyway, we merged with HH as Hells Hornets. However, it wasn't good enough for Pirate Rich. He no longer had full ownership of an alliance. He didn't want to share the spotlight with anyone. So, in a selfish act akin to a child taking their ball and going home, he disbanded HH. Rather than simply leaving HH and restarting the Killer Beez in a more honorable fashion.
So he restarted the Killer Beez, and a lot of folks left the new HH and rejoined him, out of blind and misplaced loyalty.
Well now the time has come, and he's been given a seat in the house of Varden, so he left his KB behind and joined Varden. (Meanwhile, in US25, he disbanded the alliance there today, too.)
Deathakos has left, and Hells Hornets is no more. But there are other alliances out there, new alliances, new people shifting gears and moving around and colluding and conspiring to wage the war and keep it going. Thought I'm sure our kids will be in college by the time World Wonders get going in such a slow world...
From beginning to end, this is the story of the Hells Hornets and the merge that should have been, but was never given the fair chance to succeed.
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