Wars of Helorus

PellaMike

Senior Citizen
If your going to call the history, an the wars call them correctly, and not inflate to make your guys look better, the majority of your cities you took off goat were players who jumped ship from your alliance to GOAT, and i think 10 at least of your claims were from warborn LOL
 

PellaMike

Senior Citizen
I don't care what the score is... people should at least know your not murdering GOAT, you opped them and took some cities, congratulations.
 
If your going to call the history, an the wars call them correctly, and not inflate to make your guys look better, the majority of your cities you took off goat were players who jumped ship from your alliance to GOAT, and i think 10 at least of your claims were from warborn LOL
That sounds like their problem and not mine. They (and i'll guess you guys) also put LTS in them and began to defend until Pete and War stopped trying. Also we've been taking towns up front and are headed south now almost at will. Here's the facts.

X took em without being prepared to defend them, they got massacred. Then we turned out eyes else where, players have ghosted, their founder, X, has hit VM. I don't deny that war and pete were easy, a take is a take however. As I explained previously, if we're going to get technical, then everyone has an excuse. Lmob disappeared, most of GOATs take on Raza were IA players, I took a mostly IA city off Beer. At the end of the day these cities were gained/lost and that's just that. If you prefer to see it another way, then that's your opinion, make your own score card.

I don't care what the score is... people should at least know your not murdering GOAT, you opped them and took some cities, congratulations.
You're entitled to your opinion. I will say that a good few in GOAT don't seem to agree with you.
 
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PellaMike

Senior Citizen
I don't care about score like i just said, you are skewing this thread to make grepolice look good and you know it.

We attacking short bus for like 2 weeks before you even did, but "Grepolice eradicated them" tell the story like it actually happened, this isn't even close to the history of helorus.


Rofl
 
I don't care about score like i just said, you are skewing this thread to make grepolice look good and you know it.

We attacking short bus for like 2 weeks before you even did, but "Grepolice eradicated them" tell the story like it actually happened, this isn't even close to the history of helorus.


Rofl
You had about 3-5 takes off TSB before we jumped in...If you were beating them soundly, we would have left you to it. You got a lot more when GOAT and GP attacked. Now, i'm not seeing your battles. Maybe you had them handled in other ways I couldn't see. You failed to explain such when talking to me.

I'm not skewing anything, if I was i'd be making excuses for Beer taking towns off us in O44, which they are, end of story. I've also edited things in when presented with new info (like segar15).
 
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PellaMike

Senior Citizen
Oh thanks for your help LOL This is exactly what im talking about... prove we had 3 takes.. you did nothing... then you recruited them all to your alliance rofl... this guy.. Good History of what didn't happen Daniel..
 
Pretty sure we had many more cities taken off TSB before you got going and there were a few accusations of just hitting their inactives by others. If you dispute the handful of takes, go hit up grepostats and compare conquests. This is your debate and not mine so you go provide the proof. I'm just sharing my perspective. I don't really know what you're talking about, it honestly just seems like you're defending your ally by saying its all skewed, but not many people defend your stance in game.

You seem pretty salty still, so i'll leave you to it.
 

SupahAmbition

Guest
If your going to call the history, an the wars call them correctly, and not inflate to make your guys look better, the majority of your cities you took off goat were players who jumped ship from your alliance to GOAT, and i think 10 at least of your claims were from warborn LOL
The score isn't inflated, we took those goat cities.
My view on this is that a city taken is a point, there are no excuses.
When GOAT brought in Warborn and Pete they knew that they'd lose most of their cities. HOWEVER, if they were smart they would've pre stacked their cities, or at least the ones closer to beer and goat, to minimize their loses.

Same thing with Lmobb's cities, if you want to count those go ahead. Although its not our fault that he thought he could handle an OP on his own, but those takes still count. And we kicked him not because he was losing cities, but because he was not longer an active player. Wouldn't respond over skype or in game.

You are totally entitled to your opinion, don't act like dan is trying to take that away from you. If you think the score should be different then tell us what it should be and why, instead of complaining.
Just looking at overall conquers in grepostats the score IMO is 19 Grepolice to GOAT's 4
Grepolice 21 VS Beer & Goat 13
And these stats also change dramatically when you add mortis nutus's/raza's loses.

Regardless of who you think is winning or not, I think we all can agree that Grepolice has done better than expected vs. GOAT who is miles ahead most of the server.
 
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Beastian

Guest
Mr.Ambition, you are right

Score is what it is but it's only a stat. Grepolice won battles on certain cities that were out of reach for us but I couldn't say that they have won the war (failed to take back all the cities). The players decided to join so that is saying something about the leadership at Grepolice. If you think about the loss Grepolice took from losing 2 awesome active players, it's easy to see that they haven't really won anything but lost a lot. Just saying!

Beast
 

supafletch

Lochagos
Mr.Ambition, you are right

Score is what it is but it's only a stat. Grepolice won battles on certain cities that were out of reach for us but I couldn't say that they have won the war (failed to take back all the cities). The players decided to join so that is saying something about the leadership at Grepolice. If you think about the loss Grepolice took from losing 2 awesome active players, it's easy to see that they haven't really won anything but lost a lot. Just saying!

Beast
What your explaining is standard Grepo.

Players thinking the grass is greener and losing outer cities, once the world is mid way and all those that traditionally leave do so then people will see who the more dominant alliances actually are.

its still too early for people to write off underdog alliances breaching top 12/top 5, its still too early for a mammoth alliance not to crumble paving the way for organic new alliance cropping out.

I think people should be concentrating more on position and longevity rather than premature wars.... marathon not sprint.
 

Beastian

Guest
2 supa saiyan! That's interesting. Okay advisor, I'm really glad that my explanation falls under the standard Grepo, whatever that means.

By no means I'm proclaiming that GOAT, not Mammoth, is the winner of this server. Why is everyone bent on talking about the end of GOAT when it is just beginning. No major war has been fought out. No alliance or coalition for that matter has been involved in a real hard fought war. I'm simply saying that for Grepolice to think that they are winning is just plain silly. I'm sure they are a great group but to really pat yourself in the back over a true loss is just too apparent to ignore. I'll be the first to praise any alliance that really proves that they are truly great. I wouldn't even say that about GOAT yet because from what I see, this group has a lot more to prove and eager to do so. Just seems like everyone is is betting hard on their "I told you so" speech. We shall see.

Beast
 

supafletch

Lochagos
I'm not saying the end of anything but what I am saying is people are writing other people and alliances off far too quickly
 
So we've taken 100 cities from Empire and lost 9, and out of those 9 I think 7 of them were when we had 15 players and they had 200. (conquered around 50 with those 15 players) Those noobs thought they could destroy us lol. If only I had the time to show the countless noob attacks we got :D.
 

Uoflgirl

Peltast
Well, like I said before, Beer Thirty is crumbling. Half of their alliance wants to join Minions, the other half gets booted for losing cities. Oh and I enjoyed the BP from the other day. Very sloppy execution of an attempt to take my cities. Nothing was timed, CSs had barely and escort. Try harder next time!
 

AngelOfDeath0

Guest
Well, like I said before, Beer Thirty is crumbling. Half of their alliance wants to join Minions, the other half gets booted for losing cities. Oh and I enjoyed the BP from the other day. Very sloppy execution of an attempt to take my cities. Nothing was timed, CSs had barely and escort. Try harder next time!

I hope you guys could take a few cities when you team up with half the server, sorry, no respect in that.


Also, don't believe everything you hear about the reason for people getting booted. Always two sides to a story.


You were a nice distraction that day, a successful day I may add. ;)
 
I hope you guys could take a few cities when you team up with half the server, sorry, no respect in that.


Also, don't believe everything you hear about the reason for people getting booted. Always two sides to a story.


You were a nice distraction that day, a successful day I may add. ;)

Do you think Evil asked all those alliances to go to war against you? Goats constant dirty play and backstabbing did that to you, not the Evil alliances. Also I'm pretty sure it was only Minions, Penguins, and Waffles who opped you guys this weekend. Which is a 3v3

Great job defending the waffle op, we got around the same amount of abp as Minions but took way less cities. I'll be the first to say our op didn't go as planned. But what I don't understand is why you guys were supporting cities all the way up in Northen 44 when there were cities being taken right next to/in your core. I think Minions took something like 24 cities most of which were in middle or southern 44.

As for the boots, you know an alliance is under pressure when someone kicks a leader :D.

If we were a distracion then we were quite expensive ;). 30 cities lost as a distraction lmao
 
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