Ultimate Building Guide - By Grepo Cheese

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Intro
Their are thousand of guides that mention recommended building levels. You might wonder, which guide should I follow? This guide does a lot of math to figure out what level your buildings really should be! I am going to use "Building a city" and "Specialised Cities" to see what the building levels should be.

Specialised Cities
Senate lvl 9 / Timber Camp lvl 35 / Quarry lvl 35 / Silver Mine lvl 35 / Market lvl 10 / Harbour lvl 10 / Barracks lvl 28 / Wall lvl 25 / Cave lvl 10 / Warehouse lvl 30 / Farm lvl 40 / Academy lvl 30 / Temple lvl 15 / Special Buildings: Thermal Baths and Tower.

Building a city
Barracks

Maximum level: 30
Recommended level: 10 (defensive cities: 5)
Reason: People who attack really often might want barracks level 30, but otherwise it really isn't necessary. The difference between level 1 and level 30 is no more than a 30% increase in production speed. Barracks level 15 is required for chariots, level 10 for horsemen, but defensive cities won't need either, and can stick with level 5.

Harbor

Maximum level: 30
Recommended level 5 (conquest cities: 20)
Reason: If you have naval cities, it might be worthwhile to build harbor up to level 30 for quick rebuilding if you have several matured cities and never run out of resources to build. But otherwise, it's not really necessary to build harbor past level 5, the level which is required to be able to build Thermal baths. However, you need level 20 harbor to be able to build colony ships. Some will want to be able to do so in all their cities, while others settle for a few cities in strategic positions.

Temple

Maximum level: 25
Recommended level: 15
Reason: At level 15, temple gives you 7.8 favor per hour. If you get to level 25, you can get 10 favor per hour. This difference does not really justify using 50 more population, especially once you have more cities, where favor production is not as effective when more cities worship the same god.

Market place

Maximum level: 30
Recommended level: 10
Reason: You only need market place level 10 to be able to trade with other islands. Having market place level 30 gives you more flexibility when you have many cities running full with resources, but generally isn't necessary. Often you will be able to do with level 10 just fine.

Math

So when I did the math, the building should be like this:

Senate 9
Timber camp 35
Quarry 35
silver mine 35
market place 20
Harbor 15 or 20
Barracks 28
wall 25
cave 10
warehouse 30
farm 40
academy 30
temple 15
thermal baths
tower

Good luck building!

By Grepo Cheese
 
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DeletedUser

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How did you do the math? It doesn't look like math :p

Как вы делаете математику? Это не выглядит как математика :p
 

DeletedUser2569

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How can you have senate lvl 9 and special buildings too:s
And why have i seen the part of "your" guide which doesn't include math, somewhere before?
 

DeletedUser

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You can build the senate to level 24, build the special building and then demolish the senate. Perfectly doable.
(not saying i agree with the guide... just saying that it is possible).

Tbh, in the long run his set up isn't so bad.

Senate 1
Timber camp 10
Quarry 10
silver mine 10
market place 10
Harbor 20
Barracks 20
wall 1
cave 10
warehouse 30
farm 40
academy 1
temple 1 (or whatever the minimum needed for your myth units is)
thermal baths
tower (optional)

I have never built a city like this before, but it'd be awesome. I'm assuming only around 3-4k in points, but you could pack in so many units.
The low wall is an issue, you'd have to dodge attacks otherwise you'd be ruined.
The low resource buildings isn't really an issue as you can send resources from other cities and the FV.
Low senate as once its done, no need to be able to build things quickly (though you do run the risk of someone lightning striking you and then you have a bit on an issue)
High harbour and barracks are optional really, it is just means you can build armies quicker.
Low academy as once you've researched what you want, no need to have it at level 30 anymore. You don't loose researches when you demolish the academy.
Thermal baths obv.


I'll do some maths at some point and actually work out if what i have said is true.
 

DeletedUser

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You can build the senate to level 24, build the special building and then demolish the senate. Perfectly doable.
(not saying i agree with the guide... just saying that it is possible).

Tbh, in the long run his set up isn't so bad.

Senate 1
Timber camp 10
Quarry 10
silver mine 10
market place 10
Harbor 20
Barracks 20
wall 1
cave 10
warehouse 30
farm 40
academy 1
temple 1 (or whatever the minimum needed for your myth units is)
thermal baths
tower (optional)

I have never built a city like this before, but it'd be awesome. I'm assuming only around 3-4k in points, but you could pack in so many units.
The low wall is an issue, you'd have to dodge attacks otherwise you'd be ruined.
The low resource buildings isn't really an issue as you can send resources from other cities and the FV.
Low senate as once its done, no need to be able to build things quickly (though you do run the risk of someone lightning striking you and then you have a bit on an issue)
High harbour and barracks are optional really, it is just means you can build armies quicker.
Low academy as once you've researched what you want, no need to have it at level 30 anymore. You don't loose researches when you demolish the academy.
Thermal baths obv.


I'll do some maths at some point and actually work out if what i have said is true.

In Kappa, I might try the levels you put to see where I wind up.
 

DeletedUser

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Let me know how it goes :D I've never actually done it.
It is just a thought, i need to run the math.
 

DeletedUser

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The most absolute maximum is 3383. Or at least, that's what I got.

I had the senate at 9 (min)
All res - 1
Farm - 40
Barracks - 1
Academy - 1
Harbor - 1
Temple - 1
Cave - 10
Market - 1
Warehouse - 30
Thermal baths
Plow

You can squeeze some extra pop by demolishing cave but I think it wouldn't even reach the next multiple of 10.
 

DeletedUser

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What would you be using this city for? With lvl 1 harbor and barracks and res you wont be able to build anything fast.
 

DeletedUser

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Building ultimate nukes :p

I built a 338 LS nuke on the last month of Xi (EN14).
 
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