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baby bear

Philosopher
Actually there may be a bit of truth to that, however, word is it's BS who chooses to operate in that manner.

Question: Why is it BS is ranked so low in DBP? Oh that's right, word is it's because they pact/nap with anyone around them with decent to semi decent players to do their dirty work for them while they clean up on the easier targets and set up their wonder area. Well that is until they no longer have a use for their allies and then find a way, or manufacture one, to back stab them. I hear the BS leadership are quite the shady characters that have done this in several worlds so why anyone would even entertain any kind of relationship with BS, well I guess they will have to find out the hard way what a foolish mistake they've made to enter into any relations with BS.
finally!!! someone talking smack to those lowlife, crappy playing simmers over there in BS!!!! man i hate those guys. not a single decent player over there..... garbage... just plain garbage!!! stay on your soapbox beachgirl, i gotcha back!!!!
 

red herron

Newcomer
Actually there may be a bit of truth to that, however, word is it's BS who chooses to operate in that manner.

Question: Why is it BS is ranked so low in DBP? Oh that's right, word is it's because they pact/nap with anyone around them with decent to semi decent players to do their dirty work for them while they clean up on the easier targets and set up their wonder area. Well that is until they no longer have a use for their allies and then find a way, or manufacture one, to back stab them. I hear the BS leadership are quite the shady characters that have done this in several worlds so why anyone would even entertain any kind of relationship with BS, well I guess they will have to find out the hard way what a foolish mistake they've made to enter into any relations with BS.
Puzzled by this thesis. Much of their leadership played in KOS as the Eviction/Repo group, which had one pact for the entire server. That pact stood from early on, all through wonders, and still stands. Eviction/Repo won the Victor award and then literally broke their own wonders so that their pact partners could earn crowns first. This degree of loyalty to and cooperation with a pact partner is remarkable, perhaps even unprecedented. As Bill Murray once said, "That's the fact, Jack!" And so I return to my opening statement -- who and what are you talking about?
 

PellaMike

Artisan
That's literally your profile Antiquity LOL... this game is full of hypocrites

RUT ROH!!! The old crew is coming back together after a LOOOONG time. Sorry to go against the newly found grain of grep, but we are not an MRA. And if you are, you may want to find a place better suited for you... like the rim :D

No pacts of any kind... don't even ask
 

kings33593

Hekatonarch
I just wonder how many more pacts does mortis need to win this world? Lol...i think if they get 2 more pacts they will be back in externals bluffing of how they are so good and how they got where they at with out any help lol...
 

DeletedUser723

Guest
Hmmm...

Anyone have proof of a pact between mortis and antiquity? Or are we all just crying because antiquity decided that shamers were now more of a threat than mortis and turned their offensive focus on them for the time being? Which, by the way, is exactly the same as when shamers antiquity and angels tag teamed mortis before except that mortis and antiquity aren't sharing targets or timing attacks together / escorting each other's CS's.

Sounds like a bit of hypocrisy coming from some of you and maybe even a little fear? Are you sad that shamers has to fight more than one alliance at a time? Are you crying "pact" when there isn't one? (I looked, there isn't).

Please answer The Legend's questions. He wouldn't want to have his return to the externals be uneventful...
 

DeletedUser723

Guest
Well, I haven't really spoken at all here in about a month. But thanks for saying you acknowledge my greatness! Also, still no facts about the pact..

Rumor has it, cease fires aren't the same as pacts.
 

PellaMike

Artisan
I said you talk about how great you are, that's not acknowledging your great. I do need to get myself a banner with my name on it, and a fierce animal next to it.

Im going to call everyone a hypocrite when I'm a hypocrite though that usually works.
 

kings33593

Hekatonarch
Greatness lol....i remember when all you guys used to say was " Turn the ocean Red" that's "The Mortis way".....Hypocrites...More like "Let's try to Cease fire the whole world, that's the Mortis way"
House of Ares,Mit,Kod,Antiquity,Angels and god knows what other rim lame alliance u guys need in order to actually TRY and win....
 

Acupuncture

Hoplite
I'm not quite sure why you are so upset about Antiquity choosing to turn on you, after you have have been secretly discussing when the appropriate time to turn on them would be. You can't really blame people for taking matters into their own hand and throw a punch when it suits them, rather than waiting for the knife to be lunged into their back when it suits you. It's not my kind of play style, so I can't really judge this matter, but I probably would've done the same if I got word that an ally (or NAP, whatever floats your boat) has been deliberating when they should be getting rid of us.

And no, a NAP is not the same as a pact. In a pact, we'd be lining up our attacks together on the same cities, assisting in defense when necessary, and the list goes on - pretty much what you have been doing with Antiquity, but refusing to call that a 'pact'. We're not doing any of that, and even though it's not up to me, I wouldn't want to be doing it in the near future either. Temporarily stepping back and leaving one another alone, to fight a enemy we deem more dangerous than one another, is what most would consider a NAP. If you don't, that's completely fine, to each his own. But I think many would agree on the main difference between a NAP and a pact: Leaving one another alone, or actively working together.

As for the whole list of alliances you managed to produce, that we are allegedly NAP'd/pacted with and singing kumbaya, the only one - as far as I'm concerned - that is correct, is MiT as a pact. And to be honest, I don't really know why, because we're not close to any of them, but that's up to leadership to decide.
K.o.D.: We actually had an OP going on a K.o.D. player last week (http://grepointel.com/track.php?server=us62&pn=toddsmart&rt=conquest), so I'm not sure why they're up on the list.
House of Ares: literally who? These guys are in South-Eastern 55. How do you expect us to attack them? Easy to say 'Oh you guys are NAP'd because you're not attacking them!'. That'd make you NAP'd with K.o.D. for example, because they're out of reach to attack.... right? Right.
Angels: The majority is in mid-54, where we have little to no presence at all. The ones that are actually in O44 are regularly having their alarms set off by us, as far as I know, so once again, what makes you think we are NAP'd with them? Not constantly clobbering an enemy day and night in every city they have, isn't really the same as a NAP either. Man, my alliance and yours must be NAP'd at some of our off-days by those standards:D

I won't bother with explaining Antiquity. Whoops, you caught us there, there's a NAP in place! :eek:

But honestly, at the end of the day, it is, and always will be, an online browser game. I really don't understand why you all go so deep into politics and diplomacy, when you could just be enjoying the game - why you'd forge devious plans in some secret chat room about backstabbing your (former) partners for your own gain, rather than being upright and honest with them and having a good time when playing?

Anyways, have a beer and sit back, it'll be a good few weeks coming up now:)
 

DeletedUser7813

Guest
Let's not get it twisted. Nobody in Body Shamers is mad or upset that Antiquity turned on us. As far as I know, there's never been any plans to turn on them, though of course there's guys in that general area that would love to find lots of new reds to hit. So, if "Please let's end this NAP so we can get some action" translates to some master plan to backstab Antiquity, then well there you go.

I think we can now move on past the initial "Mortis wants the world red!" thing. Yes, it happened. Yes, it's a bit hypocritical for them to now embrace a strategy that they ridiculed others for. But 1 or 2 well thought pacts/NAPs are probably smart. It at least lets them survive.

Let's also not forget that Mortis has been fleeing west faster than House of Ares could flee south. After losing approximately 100 cities to Body Shamers, and managing to capture less than 10 from us... well, that's a smart strategy also. This new "ceasefire/NAP" with Antiquity absolutely benefits Mortis, by allowing them to focus on less fronts. Will they finally slow the bleeding from Body Shamers absolute dominance?

Next question. Should Antiquity have backstabbed Body Shamers? They lost 1 member already who wasn't too thrilled on the idea. The thing with Antiquity is that there is a huge gulf between some really amazing fighters and some pretty terrible ones. I revolted 2 cities today sending fake attacks out, for crying out loud.
 

geomancer

Artisan
Next question. Should Antiquity have backstabbed Body Shamers? They lost 1 member already who wasn't too thrilled on the idea. The thing with Antiquity is that there is a huge gulf between some really amazing fighters and some pretty terrible ones. I revolted 2 cities today sending fake attacks out, for crying out loud.
Don't say Antiquity backstabbed man.... it takes two to make a quarrel.

Lets just say it happened because none of there leaders have respect for each other. nor from shamers side(no respect from shamers as from chat ) nor from antiquity.
As for revolting cities from fake attacks it will happens from both sides .No alliance is all made of perfect players :) ,some r active currently , some later in the game, some during ww and some never :p .


As far as I know, there's never been any plans to turn on them,
Are u leader in shamer m just curious?
 
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