'Issues with Tissues'

DeletedUser2684

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Hi Bawla get at me bro
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since you have me blocked but messaged that I suck and talk trash, I guess here I go although I have landed on you twice and cleared a few of you're cities while you have done nothing...

And wassup Zeeker ? how about you running another OP on 5 of my cities so you can take 1 again,:p oh I forgot you don't have AK here to help you out anymore LOL but seriously you should stop taking inactive rock cities and run another OP so I can pop my ds token for 4xbp and use it on all the internals coming up since so many players/leadership have quit on us..

So just to be clear here RoO is helping Wolverines and have NAP with BR while having ex WD players do all their dirty work,but they don't consider that simming ?:rolleyes:
 

DeletedUser16164

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Riko kinda sounds like a 'sleep with everyone on the block and then complain that we have no married friends to hang out with' kinda deal...
Run an alliance already twice the size the world can support, Get in bed with Wolverines, (who is pact-ed with Roma & Clowns) Get in bed with BR... THEN gang up and wonder why half the player ghost or vm
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MIP is busy taking everyone in... RoO is busy pacting/naping/sleeping with everyone...
And 1/3 the players ghost/VM when attacked and another other 1/3 quits from boredom and the last 1/3 stays and complains there is no action LOL

Yet that last 1/3 can't see that they made this mess TOGETHER way back in the WD's days
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What a crown...
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DeletedUser5524

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Hi Bawla get at me bro
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since you have me blocked but messaged that I suck and talk trash, I guess here I go although I have landed on you twice and cleared a few of you're cities while you have done nothing...

And wassup Zeeker ? how about you running another OP on 5 of my cities so you can take 1 again,:p oh I forgot you don't have AK here to help you out anymore LOL but seriously you should stop taking inactive rock cities and run another OP so I can pop my ds token for 4xbp and use it on all the internals coming up since so many players/leadership have quit on us..

So just to be clear here RoO is helping Wolverines and have NAP with BR while having ex WD players do all their dirty work,but they don't consider that simming ?:rolleyes:
I’ll keep taking rock cities sure. If y’all can’t secure your core that’s on you. Best part is y’all idiots keep sending and giving me free bp. You have the right to talk here when you send a full nuke to a siege break or when you learn that aim of the huntress doesn’t buff manticore. You are an absolute joke and have no right writing on these forums talking any kind of trash. Go crawl back to your hole and take you dreams of grandeur for MIP with you.
 

DeletedUser5524

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Riko kinda sounds like a 'sleep with everyone on the block and then complain that we have no married friends to hang out with' kinda deal...
Run an alliance already twice the size the world can support, Get in bed with Wolverines, (who is pact-ed with Roma & Clowns) Get in bed with BR... THEN gang up and wonder why half the player ghost or vm
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MIP is busy taking everyone in... RoO is busy pacting/naping/sleeping with everyone...
And 1/3 the players ghost/VM when attacked and another other 1/3 quits from boredom and the last 1/3 stays and complains there is no action LOL

Yet that last 1/3 can't see that they made this mess TOGETHER way back in the WD's days
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What a crown...
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It’s a strategy game and diplomacy certainly is strategy. Not my favorite part of the game but the goal is winning the world and it looks like that is what ROO leadership will do. They built their alliance up from the ground up, slowly became more of a threat then MIP ever was and then reaped the rewards of their effort. If MIP had any kind of leadership aside from Kyisland they could easily pull out of their rut but it doesn’t look like they will. Well see though.
 

DeletedUser5524

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Also just going to be fair and say that I have not seen a single player on our side complain about no action. Must be a on your side issue which makes no sense.
 

DeletedUser16164

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Also just going to be fair and say that I have not seen a single player on our side complain about no action. Must be a on your side issue which makes no sense.

Man, it's a pleasure again Zeeker... you really have to stop talking in absolutes when it's so EASY to find the posts in the forums... Sorry Mods I know we aren't supposed to "over quote" but this is absurd. You can't go around changing the narrative when you don't like what the narrative is!!! I thought we had covered this!
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These are all "your side" just so we are clear. All these quotes signify "no action" complaints, (which is a twisting of my words which I said "VM/Ghost complaints"). And that is just a mere FEW I could keep digging but the forum mods really wouldn't like me then!

Can I join the run-and-hide in VM party?
Is MIP even staying around? Seems like every day has new members go to VM or go inactive.
This world turned into sim city. We're taking cities on the rim from "big alliances" with literally no response.

That's fine, we'll move from 53 into 54 and come for MiP's weak "core" until simmers quit/ghost when they run up to some real players.

Grep On!
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DeletedUser16164

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Love to see a guy with conviction! Ya know!? A guy who really is willing to stick it to the man... Stand up for what he believes and fight against it. Pointing out the flaws - then rising above them.

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they pacted too...
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DeletedUser5524

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Man, it's a pleasure again Zeeker... you really have to stop talking in absolutes when it's so EASY to find the posts in the forums... Sorry Mods I know we aren't supposed to "over quote" but this is absurd. You can't go around changing the narrative when you don't like what the narrative is!!! I thought we had covered this!
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These are all "your side" just so we are clear. All these quotes signify "no action" complaints. And that is just a mere FEW I could keep digging but the forum mods really wouldn't like me then!




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Grep On!
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There is a huge difference between complaining about people hiding in vm and not having anyone to fight. Sure it makes it harder but we still are kicking ass regardless. Just not as fast as originally done. Vm can only last so long friend. Also asking about inactivity isn’t complaining about no one fighting lmao.
 

DeletedUser5524

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How did I know that was going to happen, darn - should have triple read before sending it the first time.

I never said "no one fighting" - you had changed my words to "no action" in the first place.

My irritation IS the complaining about VM/ghosting and simming!! - when in fact it was created by you!
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DeletedUser16164

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Zeek, obviously when you say the VM party - that is signifying the LACK OF ACTION. The inability to attack -

Beyond all this semantical mess the underlining point remains!!

Let me unclutter the point:
Pacting with everyone and accepting everyone to join creates the VM/Ghosting/Simming that everyone supposedly hates. Yet NO ONE is willing to rise above that for fear they may not be able to win the crown.
 

DeletedUser16164

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Also just going to be fair and say that I have not seen a single player on our side complain about no action. Must be a on your side issue which makes no sense.
And beyond that, it is bad form - when the point cannot be defeated to take terms out of context to somehow try to win a semantics argument!? The point of no action was clear. And the quoted remarks above PROVE that in every sense.
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Hi Bawla get at me bro
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since you have me blocked but messaged that I suck and talk trash, I guess here I go although I have landed on you twice and cleared a few of you're cities while you have done nothing...

And wassup Zeeker ? how about you running another OP on 5 of my cities so you can take 1 again,:p oh I forgot you don't have AK here to help you out anymore LOL but seriously you should stop taking inactive rock cities and run another OP so I can pop my ds token for 4xbp and use it on all the internals coming up since so many players/leadership have quit on us..

So just to be clear here RoO is helping Wolverines and have NAP with BR while having ex WD players do all their dirty work,but they don't consider that simming ?:rolleyes:

First off calling out bawla all the while hiding behind walls in every city is just funny too me, second why would anyone retort to that just dumb... Sy some guys and leaders bailed on you and your guys it sucks been there and definitely does not help. Lastly Its called strategy and who we talk too or associate with is our business not yours. As far as your comment that is the difference between us and your guys, we are one in the same one alliance...


Riko kinda sounds like a 'sleep with everyone on the block and then complain that we have no married friends to hang out with' kinda deal...
Run an alliance already twice the size the world can support, Get in bed with Wolverines, (who is pact-ed with Roma & Clowns) Get in bed with BR... THEN gang up and wonder why half the player ghost or vm
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MIP is busy taking everyone in... RoO is busy pacting/naping/sleeping with everyone...
And 1/3 the players ghost/VM when attacked and another other 1/3 quits from boredom and the last 1/3 stays and complains there is no action LOL

Yet that last 1/3 can't see that they made this mess TOGETHER way back in the WD's days
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What a crown...
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Iwilson, are you kidding me ? ROO and ROO 2 have been sieging 2 to 4 or more players almost everyday since the we were able too CS. Funny because We do not suffer from the lack of targets; its called strategy and if I and my leaders are the only ones who can see why we did what we did then yes this world is over already.
MIP can take in Whoever they want that is not the issue the issue is leadership and direction.

When WAR DOGS were king everyone left bc they feared world was over then they fell and a huge power vacuum appeared MIP tried to obtain and hold onto it but failed because treated new members as a weapon or better yet object not part of an alliance.
ROO and ROO2 kept on and stayed the path we always have. As far as simming what alliance have you been watching if your talking players, we all cannot go 24 7 365. I urge all my guys too go VM rest recoup vacation etc so you do not burn out and it pays off huge.
 

DeletedUser16164

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Al that was well said, with "plenty of targets" there seems to an odd amount of whining around about boredom and VMers... if there is food - EAT!

The simming comment I do not understand: I do not, nor ever meant to intend that ROO or ROO2 was "simming". HOWEVER that are those in your camp complaining about simmers elsewhere in big alliances. The point of saying this, again; The simming is a result of the worlds current status.... 100+ people pacted/naped/duplicated/one-and-the-samed/joined/merged TOGETHER.

In my estimation you still fail to see that ROO and ROO2 breaks the integrity of the game OR you see it and simply don't care... The world is not designed to support that many players operating as one! INFACT, the Hall of Fame only has room for ONE of the two/three/four... Cuddos to you are your leadership team for being likeable, skilled, and tactful enough to help 100+ people come to your side of view.

Truly, that is impressive.

BUT
Lets play the board game RISK, and then when it gets down to 4 people left then just end the game call everyone winners, and we all get a ribbon (crown).... GREAT. (but secretly the one with the most places actually wins...but no else knows...) or
Lets run a race together and as it nears the end... lets all stop and hand out ribbons to EVERYONE wiling to say ok... without them knowing that you actually cross the line and get a prize they DON'T GET.

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Lets all just pact together that we will ALL feed into wonders together - fight until then sure... BUT know at the end we will be winners... we will really show Inno games the loop holes then!
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Maybe just leave one person in the final alliance that does all the wonders... what would the Hall look like then?? Just a desk??

At the end of the day ONE alliance wins. And more than half your group is discarded by the rest of the grepo community! Those that are worth their salt will LOOK up that crown and see... were you a feeder or a fighter. Then make their judgments. If your name isn't on the Hall for this world, what does your crown mean? Al you have a Hall appearance that cannot be taken away. And you have a great chance to earn a second one... MANY supporting you/your leadership - will not - do they know this?? hmmmm - exploiting people is never kind, half or partial truths used for self gain - weak.
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What you are selling, people are buying though, so it must be authentic... history isn’t full of bait and switch stories is it!?

Grep ON!
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It is circular to argue that because "everyone does it" so will we - and also very shallow. It is the reason that INNO had to find a new way to conclude the game, to borrow a phrase.... "if I and my leaders are the only ones who can see"... see clearly that again, this world makes a GIANT contribution to the wrong way to play Grep.
 
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I agree with u iwilson but the days of just 1 alliance is done, grep just doesn't have the player pool it used too have. My first 3 worlds their were 8 9 alliances battling for the crown now sadly its only 2 maybe 3.
Several factors for the steep decline for endgame or even throughout the world include lack of game evolution pretty much the same look design concept, no new features or units. Basically needs an upgrade. Also the old guard of grep left. Endgame victory is pretty much like Simming, the gold is out of control. Biggest thing is 2nd 3rd alliances now are in which drains the world of competition (but without a 2nd alliance u can't win in today's grep).
All this said we have been 1 alliance all server and as far as who gets the crown u will rotate just like MIP would do or u guys if won.

Simmers are in every server and every alliance nothing i u or anyone can do. But everyone has a use a cog in the wheel.
 

DeletedUser16104

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Al that was well said, with "plenty of targets" there seems to an odd amount of whining around about boredom and VMers... if there is food - EAT!

The simming comment I do not understand: I do not, nor ever meant to intend that ROO or ROO2 was "simming". HOWEVER that are those in your camp complaining about simmers elsewhere in big alliances. The point of saying this, again; The simming is a result of the worlds current status.... 100+ people pacted/naped/duplicated/one-and-the-samed/joined/merged TOGETHER.

In my estimation you still fail to see that ROO and ROO2 breaks the integrity of the game OR you see it and simply don't care... The world is not designed to support that many players operating as one! INFACT, the Hall of Fame only has room for ONE of the two/three/four... Cuddos to you are your leadership team for being likeable, skilled, and tactful enough to help 100+ people come to your side of view.

Truly, that is impressive.

BUT
Lets play the board game RISK, and then when it gets down to 4 people left then just end the game call everyone winners, and we all get a ribbon (crown).... GREAT. (but secretly the one with the most places actually wins...but no else knows...) or
Lets run a race together and as it nears the end... lets all stop and hand out ribbons to EVERYONE wiling to say ok... without them knowing that you actually cross the line and get a prize they DON'T GET.

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Lets all just pact together that we will ALL feed into wonders together - fight until then sure... BUT know at the end we will be winners... we will really show Inno games the loop holes then!
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Maybe just leave one person in the final alliance that does all the wonders... what would the Hall look like then?? Just a desk??

At the end of the day ONE alliance wins. And more than half your group is discarded by the rest of the grepo community! Those that are worth their salt will LOOK up that crown and see... were you a feeder or a fighter. Then make their judgments. If your name isn't on the Hall for this world, what does your crown mean? Al you have a Hall appearance that cannot be taken away. And you have a great chance to earn a second one... MANY supporting you/your leadership - will not - do they know this?? hmmmm - exploiting people is never kind, half or partial truths used for self gain - weak.
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What you are selling, people are buying though, so it must be authentic... history isn’t full of bait and switch stories is it!?

Grep ON!
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It is circular to argue that because "everyone does it" so will we - and also very shallow. It is the reason that INNO had to find a new way to conclude the game, to borrow a phrase.... "if I and my leaders are the only ones who can see"... see clearly that again, this world makes a GIANT contribution to the wrong way to play Grep.

The thing is we had those same pacts BEFORE and we had 90 percent of the players we have now BEFORE the whole thing with MIP falling apart. So why is it all of a sudden a problem now? BEFORE we were dogged into the ground that we would never make it and here we are and now everyone has a problem with it LOL

On top of that we did major training with a lot of newer players even while still fighting WD. Instead of kicking people to the curb we kept them and conditioned them, so now they are assets to the team now; whereas, many other alliances would have kicked out the noob problems they encounter in the beginning. I'm sorry but no one is reigning on our parade, we have done a damn good job from the beginning and starting later than others. So if we win the crown, my guys damn sure earned it and no one is taking that away from them. You have no clue how many times our team was down in the dumps and felt defeated so you can throw all the arguments you want towards us now but we deserve to be where we are!!!!
 

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I was among the "old guard" and was in the first world where gold was traded.
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I know well the impact you describe Al. I also know many of my friends who played on that world, played 1-2 more worlds and no longer play. The game has changed...

Anywho, on the pressing matters:

Peresphone61, by the numbers you had 60 active fighters last week. LMAO training must have gone well.... what you have done is indoctrinated a group of players into the "pact-a-win" world setting. NO ONE SAID it was not earned. Like you said, you trained a group of players to press support... And that number is now nearing 3 times the RESPECTED amount. ROO (60players) is respected for their accomplishment - Altogether separate ROO2 (60players) is likewise cheered on for their stick-to-it-ness and fight. But when you want WORLD DOMINATION respect... do it within the confines of the alliance size set by the game!? If they wanted an Alliance of 120 they would have SET IT UP THAT WAY. But they didn't...

So it fair say, find your loops holes but when you cry to be respected for loop-holing your way to a win??? Ha
(Somehow because others did it first means we have to respect that is only way to do it...yet we call out golder for lack of skill, regularly... A fail to see duplicitous alliances as an equally destructive property!)

*furthermore, when you say 90% to boost a point... it should be fact. And well its not - we have been over this many times in the forums before! Not 90% by actual players, not 90% by city points added at the time new players were added, not 90% by number of cities added at the time new cities were added. So I am at a loss - that is just a lie. Just because it feels true... doesn't change the facts.
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Biggest thing is 2nd 3rd alliances now are in which drains the world of competition (but without a 2nd alliance u can't win in today's grep). All this said we have been 1 alliance all server and as far as who gets the crown u will rotate just like MIP would do or u guys if won.

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You guys like pacts right?
What if we all just pacted to play the game like it was intended *no rotations!? Think you can win with 60?? Ya I don't think you can either... Bet it would be WAY more fun for every if everyone tried tho!

Wouldn't that be crazy tho... if like, a group of renegades that wanted to play the game the right way.... like, split off and started actually doing it!? They only had like 30ish people but were going to legitimately see if it could be done... huh... crazy... Like you said - they can't win - maybe they even know that!?

The bottom line is Grep is a marathon and each day has enough worries of it own, so with that mindset a group of any size has no problem staying unified and fighting. We will be here up... When you and your group makes its way up, collecting heaven can only know how many, MIP players along the way! By that time our group of 60ish against your group of 200+ will have a popcilies chance in a bonfire...
Don't worry tho... we left a light on for you
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See you soon.

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*no rotations: is clearly not intended as the Hall of Fame reflects only 1 alliance full of players. Not the 1&2&3 that all rotated.

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Who knows maybe I will be outvoted one day and become part of this ridiculous 1v1 game where there are only 2 groups fighting for wonders, that seems inevitable. And if you somehow want respect and praise for forcing the world into this state, that respect is ALL YOURS...
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DeletedUser5524

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Honestly I don't know why you are crying so much. I don't see why we are pacted with Wolverines, hopefully I don't get in trouble for saying that XD, as they don't help us and we don't really help them. Removing them from the equation we would be equal on players on either side, that is if MIP stopped kicking anyone and everyone who starts losing cities. You guys would also have more total points at that point. Yaya total points doesn't mean anything but assuming you built the cities optimally it would mean you had more cities = more fighting power.
 

DeletedUser5524

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Iwilson, you are very good are writing ALOT and trying to prove your points with numbers and "fact". You do a good job most of the time although its clear you are biased. But I think you are super out of the loop. Gotta play more worlds before you have the "new game" knowledge to make sound arguments. The trend this world has followed was basically set in Actium and has been the same thing world after world. Actium there were many groups fighting but in the end it was a two sided effort. Ever since then ever world has followed the same pattern. If you take a look at Dyme you might even see that there is only one alliance in some worlds XD I know you are talking from past experience but thats the past. New age grepo moto is when the tough gets going the half the world also get going as well! No one wants to do what ROO did and push through and keep going. Diplo is a key to this game and MIP lacked it heavily. That is their problem not ROOs. Even so ROO only has one more alliance then yall anyways and they dont do much :X
 

DeletedUser5524

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Zeek, obviously when you say the VM party - that is signifying the LACK OF ACTION. The inability to attack -

Beyond all this semantical mess the underlining point remains!!

Let me unclutter the point:
Pacting with everyone and accepting everyone to join creates the VM/Ghosting/Simming that everyone supposedly hates. Yet NO ONE is willing to rise above that for fear they may not be able to win the crown.
And beyond that, it is bad form - when the point cannot be defeated to take terms out of context to somehow try to win a semantics argument!? The point of no action was clear. And the quoted remarks above PROVE that in every sense.
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Inability to attack, sure! Doesn't mean anything about lack of action and I think you can check out conquest history to prove that. Now now Wilson don't go taking my terms out of context, its bad form. There has been action a plenty over here for a while. Complaints about cowardly tactics were not complaints about inaction, rather, the entire lack of team spirit over in MIP. "We lost so we run and hide in VM all the while screwing our team over more". If some people had complained, it doesn't mean everyone did. Taking the comments of a few does not mean they speak for everyone and considering that is what you are trying to say is also bad form.
 
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