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"mflip234 has written the following:
Dear Dragon Slayers...
Jumping to havoc isnt the answer to going far on this server. Havoc is a pts only oriented alliance. They dont care if you are a good player, bad player, or an average player. They care that you add pts which are meaningless.
Jumping to them means, you will suffer a brutal defeat at the hands of many others shortly. To win at grep, it takes a team with loyalty, a team with a togetherness. Stand by Teacher317c. He actually has loyalty to you guys, isnt interested in just worrying about who has what points... Loyalty will be rewarded on this server, while running wont. I can promise you that Evis, Wolves and Asc will target jumpers every chance we get to show people that LOYALTY MEANS SOMETHING...
Stand and fight against havoc, dont just run away. Running to the enemy on Server Naxos means you get rimmed, while standing, showing honor and loyalty means that people will have your back and help you. Its time to show Grepolis what loyalty and honor are... Who is willing to stand with Teacher and Ascension in that cause...
THIS IS THE TIME TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. ITS A GAME ON A COMPUTER. DO YOU HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO STAND AND FIGHT, OR ARE YOU THE NEXT INLINE TO JUMP WHEN THE GOING GETS A BIT TOUGH.
These awards were earned through fighting. The teams that won these were forged through battle. Had to fight for the win. IT MADE WINNING ACTUALLY MEAN SOMETHING..."
First off I am not attempting to trash talk and I know people will make assumptions about Havoc and attack us regardless of anything I could possibly say but there are a few things of note that should be brought to consideration. Keep in mind I dont pretend to know everything surrounding these politics but this is what I have seen/know.
Havoc did kind of start out points centered but they paired this with activity. After a bit it became activity/goal based more than anything. For example the last 8 removed were either inactive or did not participate in any battles. One even tried to have us attack each other for points instead of war targets. I just cant fathom anyone playing this game even half seriously and still have one city and hardly any BP after nearly a month. (Obviously players constantly under attack have a reason).
As for the DS joining Havoc, here is a quick review from a grunts perspective. DS starts an academy without discussing this with us at all, Kirruu explains to Teacher why this is concerning and that our guy hitting a DS academy guy was doing so before we even knew of its existence. I am not sure what transpired after this, but within 24 hours DS drops pact and is hammering our guys near their cluster. We lose a few cities at first but eventually start putting up walls and thwart a major attack involving multiple DS and a lot of units from Sobieski. Now maybe RL hit, but Sobieski and davimor go inactive not too long after this. Havoc is starting to hit DS back and quite frankly I personally hit air far too often or small enough defense 1 wave gets through. It does not appear DS are coordinated anymore but I do not now or then know what was happening internally.
I also dont know why some DS came over or what may have been said with Teacher and I wont presume here. I can say that much of the leadership and main players seem to have abandoned their team for whatever reason and that doesnt scream loyalty and honor to me as neither does the issue with an academy. Allies have to be honest and trustworthy or like a marriage it will fail. I see no real difference between what happened with Havoc and DS as compared to Ascension and PP save that Teacher remains in DS.
While Im not even sure I should be saying anything, I strongly feel it is unfair how Havoc and more specifically Kirruu gets slagged with half truths. There are a lot of Havoc that put effort forward in every battle even in the face of an initial bad start to the DS war and Kirruu is probably one of the most approachable leaders I have ever gamed with. Willing to work with you even if you butt heads with him and instead of flying off the handle gets as much information as he can about a situation before making a measured response. We may not win a WW or even survive a year but I can say Havoc is far better off than a lot of you give it credit for and will not go down easily (I have several bottles of whiskey that I am prepared to drink non stop until I see nothing but victory if I have to!)
Anyway it has been a week since you started reading this I guess I should stop rambling. Good Luck and Good Hunting all, I think it will be more interesting than people think =)
"mflip234 has written the following:
Dear Dragon Slayers...
Jumping to havoc isnt the answer to going far on this server. Havoc is a pts only oriented alliance. They dont care if you are a good player, bad player, or an average player. They care that you add pts which are meaningless.
Jumping to them means, you will suffer a brutal defeat at the hands of many others shortly. To win at grep, it takes a team with loyalty, a team with a togetherness. Stand by Teacher317c. He actually has loyalty to you guys, isnt interested in just worrying about who has what points... Loyalty will be rewarded on this server, while running wont. I can promise you that Evis, Wolves and Asc will target jumpers every chance we get to show people that LOYALTY MEANS SOMETHING...
Stand and fight against havoc, dont just run away. Running to the enemy on Server Naxos means you get rimmed, while standing, showing honor and loyalty means that people will have your back and help you. Its time to show Grepolis what loyalty and honor are... Who is willing to stand with Teacher and Ascension in that cause...
THIS IS THE TIME TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. ITS A GAME ON A COMPUTER. DO YOU HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO STAND AND FIGHT, OR ARE YOU THE NEXT INLINE TO JUMP WHEN THE GOING GETS A BIT TOUGH.
These awards were earned through fighting. The teams that won these were forged through battle. Had to fight for the win. IT MADE WINNING ACTUALLY MEAN SOMETHING..."
First off I am not attempting to trash talk and I know people will make assumptions about Havoc and attack us regardless of anything I could possibly say but there are a few things of note that should be brought to consideration. Keep in mind I dont pretend to know everything surrounding these politics but this is what I have seen/know.
Havoc did kind of start out points centered but they paired this with activity. After a bit it became activity/goal based more than anything. For example the last 8 removed were either inactive or did not participate in any battles. One even tried to have us attack each other for points instead of war targets. I just cant fathom anyone playing this game even half seriously and still have one city and hardly any BP after nearly a month. (Obviously players constantly under attack have a reason).
As for the DS joining Havoc, here is a quick review from a grunts perspective. DS starts an academy without discussing this with us at all, Kirruu explains to Teacher why this is concerning and that our guy hitting a DS academy guy was doing so before we even knew of its existence. I am not sure what transpired after this, but within 24 hours DS drops pact and is hammering our guys near their cluster. We lose a few cities at first but eventually start putting up walls and thwart a major attack involving multiple DS and a lot of units from Sobieski. Now maybe RL hit, but Sobieski and davimor go inactive not too long after this. Havoc is starting to hit DS back and quite frankly I personally hit air far too often or small enough defense 1 wave gets through. It does not appear DS are coordinated anymore but I do not now or then know what was happening internally.
I also dont know why some DS came over or what may have been said with Teacher and I wont presume here. I can say that much of the leadership and main players seem to have abandoned their team for whatever reason and that doesnt scream loyalty and honor to me as neither does the issue with an academy. Allies have to be honest and trustworthy or like a marriage it will fail. I see no real difference between what happened with Havoc and DS as compared to Ascension and PP save that Teacher remains in DS.
While Im not even sure I should be saying anything, I strongly feel it is unfair how Havoc and more specifically Kirruu gets slagged with half truths. There are a lot of Havoc that put effort forward in every battle even in the face of an initial bad start to the DS war and Kirruu is probably one of the most approachable leaders I have ever gamed with. Willing to work with you even if you butt heads with him and instead of flying off the handle gets as much information as he can about a situation before making a measured response. We may not win a WW or even survive a year but I can say Havoc is far better off than a lot of you give it credit for and will not go down easily (I have several bottles of whiskey that I am prepared to drink non stop until I see nothing but victory if I have to!)
Anyway it has been a week since you started reading this I guess I should stop rambling. Good Luck and Good Hunting all, I think it will be more interesting than people think =)