It sounds like that came from rational. Knowing Oli I can assure you Koopas never entertained a coalition possibility.
When we were in wtf we were stuck in between koopas and kod nap'ed with both but no pacts. Eventually the coalition went after kod. Koopas told us to fight kod with them or they would break the nap. Joining the coalition and gang tackling kod sounded boring so we went to war with Koopas. We eventually came to an agreement to join Koopas under the understanding that Koopas wouldn't be part of any big coalition. I'm glad we did as it was a lot of fun even though we fought the entire server grossly outnumbered.
So, it appears one side joined because the other side said they were forming one and the other joined for similar reasons.
However, once sides did form, out of necessity, it was 3 big alliances (KOD, Koopas, Rats) against 3 big alliances (TBA, JG & IA). Random mergers and such occurred during this time as well. So, there was a time when we had some tough wars, on all fronts. Rats just fell apart first and there was a trickle effect.
And, realistically, TBA, JG & IA really didn't fight together until after world wonders. We just weren't really organized for a long time.
For me, this is the funniest of all worlds, due to the diversity of the teams and our partnerships.
Not really sure why you continue to assert a coalition of enemies was formed to counter your coalition but that narrative is false. If it makes you feel more justified in pacting the world so be it. It's your right to believe in unicorns and the tooth fairy as well but belief doesn't constitute truth.
I'm telling you that was our understanding from the beginning, as we were asked to join "it" and the reason we felt a strong need to create our own. Around that same time, our conversations with JG & IA were focused on building wonders together, as we were told that may be the plan for RATS/KOD/Koopas.
I'm very clear you claim a different experience.
Regardless, yes it was a good move for us and I am really happy with the overall team. And, I'm even more happy we believed "the story". Thanks to the RATS crew for that one.
doing away with shared forums would be a good startWell sorry you were duped into starting a coalition. Thankfully I've never been put in that position. In one previous world my alliance voted to join a mega coalition like yours and it sounded terribly boring so I just ghosted. Our crew hated it and as soon as wonders were over they ghosted as well. Sucks a lot of the fun out of the game and means that alliance caps don't mean anything. Maybe one day Inno will fix it.
doing away with shared forums would be a good start
Sorry.. i have to step in.. something about saying my name too many times while looking in a mirror..
Whitty.. I applaud the veracity with which you try to argue your point. Unfortunately, it couldnt be any further from the truth. I dont know what you were told or by whom, but it was either a ploy or just misinformation from some irrelevant player. Rational leaders for the most part were a joke. They werent the brightest players and certainly not the most trustworthy.
Suuuuuuuuuper brief summary of events..
TBD joins world... pacts with JG and NAP with APOC.. Koopas join 1 month later.. Pact with TBD and eventually NAP with Rational..
Once TBD starts beating up KOD... Koopas decide to break pact with TBD.. we then merge with WTF(ducks group) and pact with Rational. NO talks with KOD at all. If you want to say silent NAP fine.. but I never spoke with zimm until after wonders were built. No shared forums, no unified effort.
Then fast forward to wonders starting.. Koopas and Rational both agree to give wonders a shot separately.. (really bad diplo with really dense people here)..
When TBA was formed and JG didnt get a wonder thats when we figured coalition. Rat gave us their wonder when they finally came to their senses and we pacted with KOD. This wasnt until January/February 2016 at least.. Then when players fell is about when you finally saw the group become one and share wonders for victor.
Please also note that this doesnt even count the TBA/JG combination with IA or smaller alliances like GDI.
And also note.. that outside of players like Mazda who got so absurdly hurt over the split between Koopas and TBD.. the player in Baris I stand the least is zimm. The Koopa/KOD relationship was to prevent the world from going stale.. We never saw eye to eye and we never did anything for the benefit of the other.. heck at times I would of gladly handed over our wonders to TBA to spite zimm.. but that wasnt my call to make alone. So to say we were teaming up against you guys is absurd. We had a common enemy.. but it was never like the TBD/Apoc/JG love fest that was going on well before wonders even started.
Based on everything that has taken place in this world.. id prefer one of the following names:
As Grepolis Turns
The Coalition and the Restless
All My Alliances
Murph!! Hiya Bro, This world is Goofy so very very goofy
Funny how people forget... JG and IA never had any arrangement before WW. JG and IA were competing for a WW, how and why would we have any arrangement. It was directly after this. Unless you call a temp cease fire an arrangement... Not hardly...JG and IAs arrangements were set before the Wonder Age - they have confirmed it and it made sense especially for IA as it put 35 in a better position.
Was a bit strange to have one of the IA leaders come on here to lie and say KOD broke the NAP though
It is what it is now- seen this taken way too seriously by some and I'm sure we have all seen really bad moves made that killed reputations in other worlds which hasn't applied here.
Coalitions were all over EN and it killed worlds - I feel players who missed the times before that have really missed out.
EN Chi - what a world that was.